and that is one of the reasons why glenn greenwald and edward snowden's revelations have had such traction over here. because, as i said, most people take it for granted that there is a lot spying that goes on, even between allies. much less between adversaries. but even between allies. look, the former u.s. secretary of state madeleine albright said, just this week, that i was spied on, she said, when i was u.s. ambassador by the french, our allies. there's a lot of two-way spying going on. but it's the mass collection of anything from the population that is causing a huge amount of anxiety. >> because of that, it does remain an open question what the political fallout will be in the end for the u.s. and its relationship with many european nations. thank you so much, great interview with greenwald, thank you. >>> now to the administration's other albatross, the troubled rollout of obama care. despite promises to the contrary prom the president himself, many americans could lose their current coverage because of a law. is that a bad thing? cnn's brianna keilar is following developments. sh